Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story

As we approach the final primaries; I thought it might be helpful to write my personal reasons for why I support Hillary and will stand with her as long as she keeps going.

13...that's how old I was when my dad passed away. It's crazy how much something like that can affect a teenager. My mom was left with the difficult task of raising me on her own after that.

It's difficult enough for a single mom, but it was compounded for her. My mom was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis at the age of 19. By the time my dad died; she was in a wheelchair and unable to work.

Rent, bills, groceries...we were able to get by thanks to Social Security. $980 bucks a month...

Health Care? We were fortunate to be poor enough to qualify for Medicaid/MediCal and finally Medicare.

When the Republicans took over Congress; they tried to pass draconian cuts in the Medicare program. Bill Clinton fought them and fought them strong. My mom and I felt the benefits of that fight on the ground level.

When I was accepted into UCLA it was thanks to Pell grants, Cal grants, and subsized stafford loans that we were able to afford it. When the MS got so bad my mom could no longer live on her own she moved into a nursing home. She lost the ability to walk, talk, and eat. The medical bills totaled in the hundreds of thousands; if not the millions. But she was taken care of; because we had Medicare.

She passed away three years ago...MS is a progressive disease and she couldn't fight any longer.

I made up my mind about who I was supporting back in January. I took a long look at Edwards, Obama, and Hillary. I read through each one of their plans and made up my mind.

I realize that on the vast majority of the issues there is not much difference between the two. But there is one major difference, and it happens to center around Universal Healthcare.

The differences on strong enough that I have volunteered hundreds of hours, dollars, and invested a ton of emotion. Why? Because at the end of the day her plan achieves Universal Healthcare while his might. In addition, her plan would allow people to buy into a public plan based on Medicare while his would not. I know the difference having healthcare means to those who need it. We were lucky enough to qualify for government help; but there are tens of millions of people out there who aren't so lucky.

If Obama wins; I'll be right there with him. But understand, many of the people standing with Hillary have their reasons. Now you know mine.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/hea lthcare/summary.aspx



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Thoughts and comments (2.00 / 17)

are always welcome :)

Please..feel free to share personal reasons you are supporting Hillary or Barack.

I think we need the positivity!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:42:02 AM EST

Thanks for sharing! (2.00 / 8)

Hope folks are kind to you.  Go Hill!


by izarradar on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:44:58 AM EST
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Re: Thanks for sharing! (2.00 / 5)

Looks like they were :) Let's make those calls; Go Hill!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:33:57 AM EST
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PLEASE REC THIS UP!!!! (2.00 / 1)

You make a powerful case for Hillary - well done.

I'm so sorry about your mom.  No one should have to deal with financial worries on top of health problems.  It sounds like your mom did an amazing job in taking care of you despite the obsticles and challenges.

Hillarys healthcare plan is in FACT the only truly UNIVERSAL plan out there and as I speak with voters during phone bank shifts, healthcare is one of their top two or three issues.  As Hillarys said time and time again - this is a question of basic human rights.  You get sick or hurt - your kid needs a check-up or vaccinations - yoy should have access to a doctor.  Period.

hanks for telling your story - well done!


Donate to Hillary Now!
by alegre on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:07:23 AM EST
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Re: PLEASE REC THIS UP!!!! (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for the comment Alegre! And thanks for all your hard work on behalf of Hillary :)


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:18:30 AM EST
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Re: Thanks for sharing! (none / 0)

The thing is, Clinton doesn't have a universal health care plan.

She has a plan with subsidies and with the requirement for purchasing private health insurance.

A true UHC plan would mean that the government covers health care costs -- Medicare for all.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:58:37 AM EST
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false, false, false. (2.00 / 3)

single payer and universal health care are not synonomous, despite this commenter's fondest wishes. hillary's proposal is a viable step to single payer; obama has no intention of doing anything except claiming he tried.


by campskunk on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:44:36 AM EST
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Re: Thoughts and comments (2.00 / 3)

We'd be well served if every voter took the time and effort you did in deciding who to support.

Cheers.


by Deadalus on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:16:50 AM EST
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Re: Thoughts and comments (2.00 / 3)

I respect anyone who takes the time to decide!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:41:35 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 2)

Awesome. My mom's the same way, she's supporting Senator Clinton because of her health care plan. I guess the important thing to do if Senator Obama wins is what Twinmom did with her Woman's Issues thing- make sure they know how you feel. If there are more people like you, and I'm certain there are, then I know Senator Obama will certainly take these things into consideration and modify his platform to accommodate them.

Besides, I'm sure that Senator Clinton, in whatever capacity she ends up, will be right there at the forefront of the fight for Universal Healthcare. So just because you'll support Senator Obama doesn't mean, of course, you have to stop supporting Senator Clinton in that endeavor.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:45:36 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 6)

If he wins you better believe I will! But until then, she has earned my unwavering support and commitment!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:50:22 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 2)

Good, I'd expect nothing less.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:53:11 AM EST
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What a wonderful diary (2.00 / 4)

I have a cousin who suffers from MS so I know how devestating it can be. My heartfelt sorrow for your loss, and deep gratitude for sharing your story.

You make me so proud to support Hillary too :)


by phoenixdreamz on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:46:37 AM EST

Re: What a wonderful diary (2.00 / 4)

My thoughts are with you and your cousin :)


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:48:20 AM EST
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Thank you (2.00 / 1)

I'm glad you could read that. I meant 'devastating'. I'm on a typo roll tonight and it's driving me nuts, lol


by phoenixdreamz on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:51:10 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 2)

Great Diary!!!


by nikkid on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:48:06 AM EST

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Thanks :)


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:42:05 AM EST
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Beautiful. Thank you. (2.00 / 3)

It amazes me how many people remember what Hillary (or Bill) did for them "at the ground level". I came to her late, just in January. It's been immensely impressive.


by catfish2 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:50:36 AM EST

Re: Beautiful. Thank you. (2.00 / 4)

Seriously...you have no idea what close attention we paid to the budgetary battles in '95 and '97!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:52:38 AM EST
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Re: Beautiful. Thank you. (2.00 / 4)

Looking back, I'm still amazed that he was able to face down the entire Republican congress and get the budget he knew we needed.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:54:58 AM EST
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Re: Beautiful. Thank you. (2.00 / 3)

Agreed...many forget how vicious Gingrich was! The Government shutdown, the proposed cuts...Bill truly stood his ground and we have a lot to be thankful for


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:36:22 AM EST
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Re: Beautiful. Thank you. (none / 0)

I've wondered how he kept his sanity watching Bush trash the country after he got us on the right track.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:46:36 AM EST
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Re: Beautiful. Thank you. (2.00 / 3)

These are some of the reasons it hurts so many of us to see him torn down in the media and by some of the Obama supporters out there...the man did an amazing amount of good for our country!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:54:08 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 2)

Thank you for this diary.  I'd rec it if I could.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:53:20 AM EST

Excellent diary, recommended. (2.00 / 4)

Healthcare was my number one issue, too -- that seems to be the case with a lot of Clinton supporters. I have a lot of reasons to worry about it. And I really dislike Obama's plan... Ah, well. I expect I'll get over it eventually (for the most part).


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:53:56 AM EST

Re: Excellent diary, recommended. (2.00 / 1)

You can press Obama and Congress to pass the best plan when they take over in January. :)



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:55:46 AM EST
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Re: Excellent diary, recommended. (2.00 / 3)

I find that to be the case quite often as well...it truly is a dividing line for many. I have spent a lot of time looking into it. The main faults I find with his is that he does not cap premiums...compunded with the lack of a mandate this could end up increasing costs!
Also, I find her medicare option to be the best part of her plan!
by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:57:27 AM EST
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Great Diary - Recommended (2.00 / 3)

I'm an Obama supporter, but this is one of the issues on which I wish Obama would take a page from Hillary. It's beyond ridiculous that we are in the 21st century and in the richest country in the world and still so many people don't have health care insurance.


by gustavoNYC on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:58:01 AM EST

Re: Great Diary - Recommended (2.00 / 3)

Let's agree that should he win we don't let this issue slide. Believe me, Elizabeth Edwards knows what she's talking about!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:43:16 AM EST
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Re: Great Diary - Recommended (2.00 / 1)

Absolutely. I'm not a policy wonk and maybe, just maybe there is really some serious flaw in mandates as currently understood, but I can't think a sensible, workable solution to achieve Universal coverage cannot be achieved.


by gustavoNYC on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:47:42 AM EST
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Re: Great Diary - Recommended (2.00 / 3)

I believe that Social Security and Medicare succeed because they have mandates. Take away the mandates...too mnay people opt out...program fails.

Look at Bush's "social security plan" - at its heart it just eliminates the mandate!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:51:22 AM EST
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Re: Great Diary - Recommended (none / 0)

I don't necessarily disagree. But there's something that bothers me (something half baked) about a law that mandates coverage without making sure people can pay for it. Why not go single payer then? Maybe that's utopian in the US... But if it is, maybe so are mandates?


by gustavoNYC on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:15:22 AM EST
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Re: Great Diary - Recommended (2.00 / 3)

I feel her plan provides two answers for the valid issue you raised:

1.) If people choose to keep a private insurance plan then the premiums will be capped to a percentage of income

2.) They could also choose to buy into the public plan (based on Medicare). This is a single payer option within her plan!

Agreed that without caps on preiums mandates are a bad idea.  


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:21:16 AM EST
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Re: Great Diary - Recommended (none / 0)

Sounds promising. I'm certainly willing to learn more about it.


by gustavoNYC on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:36:58 AM EST
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Re: Great Diary - Recommended (none / 0)

You are already mandated to pay for the health care of other people though deductions in your paycheck (through Medicare), whether you can "afford" it or not. Wouldn't it be better if those mandated deductions covered your own health care too (if you aren't already covered by your employer or another plan)?


by LakersFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:46:04 PM EST
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Re: Great Diary - Recommended (none / 0)

If Social Security was designed like Clinton's health care plan, you'd be required to buy an annuity from a private insurance company or face fines.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:57:12 AM EST
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I'm going to rec. this (2.00 / 2)

3 great diaries in one night.

Student Guy

ragekage

LDFan

Good job peeps.


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:01:12 AM EST

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Wonderful diary.  I'm sorry about your mom and dad.  Those personal loses are devastating, but you have turned that loss into positive energy.

Rec'd.


United we stand, divided we fall.
by mefeck on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:08:04 AM EST

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Thank you for your thoughts :) I have found that postive energy beats negative energy every time!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:01:39 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 5)

Thank you for the diary, it speaks directly to me. I live with MS and some days are tough, but I am lucky, I have a great job with full healtcare.  Many of my friends in the MS community don't, and they suffer and are forced to make terrible choices.

Some people just want to forget about all the good things the Clintons have done.  Not me, I remember and am grateful.  HRC's universal healthcare plan is what we need.  That's one of the main reasons I am sticking with HRC for as long as necessary, past June 3.  The issues are too real.  I have the honor of being a pledged HRC delegate, and she makes me so damn proud to keep fighting for the isses that matter.


by Chicano on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:08:41 AM EST

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It's amazing how many people are not familiar with the disease...stay strong and stay positive! My toughts are with you :) When my mom was diagnosed (in 1968) they didn't know as much as they know now...Have fun in Denver and here's to hoping for a 1986 moment (Mets fan here)!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:14:59 AM EST
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mojo for a Mets fan!


by slynch on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:58:28 AM EST
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I just got here and I must say that your diary is (none / 0)

wonderful.  I am an Obama supporter who agrees with you on health care (heck i am going to be taking care of people within 10 years and I want my patients to not to have to worry about whether or not they can afford something) on health care (I am slightly worried about how thin the mandate might stretch health care staff [not only MDs but nurses and pharmacists as well] but well overcome as we went into this because we care about our patients).

However I saw foreign policy as more important and from what I've seen out of Obama he sees things differently than in the past.  Al Giordano has a great article about foreign policy in latin America over at narconews here:
http://narconews.com/Issue53/article3110 .html
or about how he is willing to go and meet with leaders of countries we currently don't like.

The other reason I like Obama is he encourages volunteerism with his student aid policy.

I'm for democrats (as long as they hold true to what the party is now) and everyone who ran in the primary (except gravel) is a democrat.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:42:37 AM EST

foreign policy (2.00 / 1)

Hey Student Guy,
I'll tell you that as a Hillary supporter I'm actually partial to Obama's foreign policy plans. I admire that he stood up when he did in '02 although I wish he (and her) did more these past few years.
I was thinking the other day that we lost a great voice when Wellstone died...he was someone who truly had is heart in the right place.
My best friend supports Obama because of his organizing policies. I think it's great when we can focus on what we admire in the candidate's we support rather than engaging in the vitriol that has been going on!
by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:49:36 AM EST
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oof. (2.00 / 1)

I am still not over Wellstone, I am a MN guy and a prairie populist...  He was a hero, I still have my Wellstone shirt and wear it with some regularity.

But yeah this is what happens when we can focus on honest discussion, we realize how close in positions most of us really are.  If only there weren't people stirring the pot to get us all mad at each other.

I tell you what, we are going to get a good healthcare plan passed in 2009 and we will have a better foreign policy.  There are enough of us who share these positions that we will push our nominee to hold them.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:00:22 AM EST
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Blackwater (2.00 / 2)

You must admit she stands stronger there!


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:55:16 AM EST
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yeah I do (none / 0)

but both have pretty good stances, both supported something that will hopefully put an end to the need for companies like that which is the 21st cent. GI bill.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:01:23 AM EST
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Re: I just got here and I must say that your (none / 0)

Maybe you should rethink your priorities, especially since you're planning on spending your life in this field. The health care crisis in this country takes more lives than the war in Iraq. And it's destroying the economic future of individuals, businesses, and the nation as a whole. I understand that "anti-war" can seem like the most high-profile and important issue when selecting a candidate to support, but it's the less glamourous and more nuts-and-bolts issues that really determine the future direction of our country.


by LakersFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:54:05 PM EST
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Thank you for sharing (2.00 / 1)

this very personal story.

I ended up supporting Sen. Clinton for fairly similar reasons.  She was not my first choice (Sen. Biden was), but I moved to her camp when she stopped being the anointed one, and became a progressive !!


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:55:50 AM EST

Re: Thank you for sharing (none / 0)

I also feel her campaign has only gotten better! If only there had been no Penn....


by LDFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:59:54 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Hillary is very lucky to have great supporters like yourself.  Thank you for the heartfelt diary.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Thu May 29, 2008 at 03:29:00 AM EST

Absolutely! This is my main issue (none / 0)

It really means a lot to me. I have seen too many people suffer and die from lack of basic health care early enough to make a difference. I have also talked to people that live in countries WITH universal health care, and they are very happy with it. They think we are INSANE for letting this go on like it has, with rationing done according to whether you can pay or not.

No one loses their home in those other countries because of medical bills, no one goes bankrupt.

When you start to bargain, you DON'T give away ANYTHING right at first. That is bad bargaining, and when you deal with the creeps that are making so much money from the suffering and deaths of 20,000+ a year, you don't want to give them ANYTHING.


by splashy on Thu May 29, 2008 at 04:24:32 AM EST

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If he gets in - he's basically put my life at risk because he doesn't want mandated health care for adults.

I'm paying over $22,000 for my health insurance premium through my state health risk pool because I'm fighting breast cancer. At the rate of the bi-annual increases, my premium has gone up 100% in 4 years and at that rate I will soon no longer be able to afford it. Why anyone would back the ONLY presidential  candidate who isn't willing to try for mandated health insurance is beyond comprehension.

I heard him in Houston telling us that he would only consider mandated health insurance for adults only after seeing how it would work for children before even thinking about doing so for adults.

Do you have any idea how insulting to hear a DEMOCRATIC candidate for the presidency who's getting taxpayers' sponsored health care that the luxury he gets from our taxes isn't goodenough for me and the 47 million other people who cannot afford it? It's simply disgusting because we know he's doing the biddings of his lobbyists friends and families of the health insurance and drug industries donors


by suzieg on Thu May 29, 2008 at 04:44:14 AM EST

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While you may think it's insulting and that he's doing the bidding of lobbyist buddies in your view, you might want to check your righteous indignation at the door.

He's cautious on healthcare because he has to be.  It's a pragmatic decision more than anything else.  You cannot just blink and have things the way you want on such an issue.

Additionally, one of Hillary Clinton's most vocal supporters, Sen. Charles Schumer, has stated the likelihood of sweeping healthcare reform that either candidate wants going through is slim.

It has to be incremental and it's better to start with children than anyone else.


I'm riding the Low Road Express. Join me at www.lowroadexpress.com
by LtWorf on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:55:43 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Clinton doesn't want "mandated health care" either, if you mean a mandate from the government to provide health care.

She wants a requirement for people to buy health care and says that the care will be affordable, but doesn't say how much it will cost.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:55:46 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Maximum cost: 5-10% of income with subsidies for people who cannot afford to pay. She's said it repeatedly. Her plan is comprehensive and well thought out.


by LakersFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 01:57:49 PM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

I am sorry to hear about your breast cancer and your financial difficulties. I also live in Houston, so have you considered looking at financial resources to alleviate costs? The Texas State Health Risk Pool has a list:
http://www.txhealthpool.org/Financial%20 Resources%204-2008.pdf
Hope this is helpful and best wishes.
by CHoustonTX on Thu May 29, 2008 at 08:47:37 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

It's a pleasure to rec a great diary written by someone whose 1st candidate choice is different than mine.

The first time I felt connected with Barack was, strangely enough, in reading about his mother. Her life story and views on life, in many ways, reflected those of my own mom. I had previously been inclined to vote for him on issues not connected directly to motherhood, but Ann Dunham sealed the deal for me. Go figure.

Looking forward to working together against the GOP.


McCainuire, The Wrath Of Not Enough Naps.
by catilinus on Thu May 29, 2008 at 05:21:33 AM EST

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Invisible rec and mojo. Very good perspective for a lot of us to hear.


by gcensr on Thu May 29, 2008 at 05:31:04 AM EST

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I am moved and sorry to hear about your parents. MS is a horrendous disease. I had health insurance problems as well when I was diagnosed with cancer. I also went to UCLA and based my decision on health care, but I picked Barack Obama.

When I learned that the biggest difference between the candidates was health care, I looked up the person that I thought knew the most about health care policy: Rick Brown at UCLA. Rick was on Hillary Clinton's 1993 task force (I was just an epidemiology grad student at the time and had friends who worked for him). Rick's been working for universal coverage for a very long time and is now advising Barack Obama.

So this is a long way of saying, I think we will get there with both plans. I am a little scared for the mandated health care plan, I think it lacks initial buy-in by all stakeholders, which I think sunk the 1993 plan (my very limited opinion only, not a health policy expert, just an epidemiologist). Either way, I am looking forward to having a democratic President!


by CHoustonTX on Thu May 29, 2008 at 06:58:39 AM EST

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I'm currently an epi grad student, its nice to see an epidemiologist here.  

I tend to agree with you.  I am entirely certain that one way or another, we get some type of universal health care in this country in the next 30 years.  I'd like to be certain that it would be sooner, but I hesitate to make a less conservative estimate.

I know that's not soon enough for many people here who are suffering due to health problems.


by GreenHills on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:21:49 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

30 years? Are you out of your mind? You might as well say 300! Seriously. What you are saying is no better than what we have now. We have Medicare for 30 years from now. People have illnesses now and need health care now. If you think we can wait, please consider a job where you stay in the lab. If you cannot recognize that people are dying because of our health care crisis, you will not do well with real human patients who have real health and financial problems.


by LakersFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:04:07 PM EST
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I think that you misunderstood me (none / 0)

I DONT think we can wait 30 years. I have a husband with some real health problems and we spent the majority of the last 3 years without health insurance.  I'd love to have universial health care yesterday, but you understand that I can't make that happen through my own personal force of will.  I do have every intention of using my education to demonstrate how much we need universal health care.

I am basing this on scientific examination of some demographic realities--I think that we currently have about 1/7th of US citizens on Medicare, and it goes up every year.  At some point, it becomes noted that the only adults who aren't on medicare are the ones who pay for it, and this becomes a less stable situation as the proportion of the US population on medicare increases.  I'm just considering medicare here, and not other gov't supported health care.

For some similar demographic realities, I think that we will have major relaxation in drug laws over the course of the next 30 years.

I try to avoid writing like an epidemiology student online, it usually leads to misunderstanding.  Maybe I shouldn't have said anything.


by GreenHills on Thu May 29, 2008 at 06:30:43 PM EST
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Re: I think that you misunderstood me (none / 0)

Then you should only support a candidate that supports universal health coverage now. That would be Hillary Clinton.

And you're not quite correct about Medicare. Plenty of Medicare beneficiaries are also paying into the system. Unless you stop working when you hit 65, you continue to pay for Medicare when you're receiving it.


by LakersFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:09:43 PM EST
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Re: I think that you misunderstood me (none / 0)

On point #2--Thank you.  You are correct and that is an important clarification.

On point #1--I find it somewhat presumptuous that you tell me who I should support.  This approach does not reflect well upon your candidate.


by GreenHills on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:08:53 PM EST
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Re: I think that you misunderstood me (none / 0)

It has nothing to do with my candidate and everything to do with my personal experience with the nightmarish health care system in this country. I really don't see how you can deal with a spouse with serious illness and no health insurance and not realize this is our most important priority and we need a candidate who is committed to doing it NOW.

Most of the people I've come in contact with working in health care are strongly in favor of universal health care ASAP. They know it's destroying their ability to practice medicine to the best of their abilities, and it's killing their patients.


by LakersFan on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:48:39 AM EST
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Hey! Don't pick on epi students! (none / 0)

Most epidemiologists and students are for universal health care yesterday. Epidemiology is the science of public health: an epidemiologist is not what you try to be if you want to make the big bucks and there is usually not a direct route that you take to get there. Epidemiology is studying people, which is hard: it is not like studying rats in a lab. We conduct/design research studies to get the evidence to build a case that we need health care. How to implement that evidence takes politics that is the usual perview of health policy. An American epidemiologist's dream and our envy of European epidemiologists is a single payer healthcare system: simplifies research.

Look, we are glad that you are screaming for universal health care too. What we are saying is welcome to our club: we need to reach those who oppose universal health care.


by CHoustonTX on Thu May 29, 2008 at 08:33:55 PM EST
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Re: Hey! Don't pick on epi students! (none / 0)

I'm not picking on epidemiologists at all. But I will pick on anyone who is entering the health care field and doesn't realize that the lack of universal health care is the most important issue facing our nation right now. Sorry, but Obama happens to be one of those who is not supporting universal health coverage and that is a HUGE problem.


by LakersFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:07:24 PM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Hi epi grad student! Have you read the new Modern Epi 3rd ed? It really is so much better than the 2nd ed, I promise: less Sanderese and more coherent. Also, have you tried the epimonitor.net site? You might want to keep it in mind as a goal for getting out. Good luck!


by CHoustonTX on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:50:38 PM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

I havent read that one.  I'll look into it.  My favorite was a text by Savitz--the title is escaping me now. And I'll take a look at epimonitor,net, thanks!


by GreenHills on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:12:10 PM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 1)

In 1995, a line was drawn across my life,and it has never been the same.  My 82 year old father was stabbed to death while working in his Christmas tree farm.  He was the caregiver for my mother who had Alzheimer's, and it fell on my husband and me to take care of her.  A month after dad died, my husband had a stroke.  Between trying to straighten out my dad's estate, dealing with the police, and taking care of my husband, it was impossible to do my job, which 1 1/2 hr away from where my mother lived.  I used the Family and Medical Leave Act to force my boss to give me a leave of absence to get my life back together...which of course, it never did, entirely.

I always felt thankful to Bill Clinton for FMLA.

And since then, my husband has had a heart attack, and I have had uterine cancer.  It is more and more difficult to deal with our insurance problems, because of our existing conditions.  Like the diarist, I support Hillary because of her health care plan.

But there is another issue that caused me to support Hillary over Barack. Social Security.

We rely on Social Security to get by.  And Barack has always had 'fixing Social Security' as one of his shticks.  I heard him be interviewed on George Stephanopoulous where he said 'everything is on the table'.  George had to force him to backtrack to say, well not privatization, but everything else.  Social Security does not need to be fixed--that's a Republican story.  What it needs is to be funded.  And when a Democratic candidate tells me everything is on the table, I don't trust them on Social Security at all.

I hope Barack will state unequivocally at some point that he is not going to change the benefit formula for the worse.


"There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up" --Rex Stout
by LIsoundview on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:16:02 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 1)

Thank you for your story. Here's some facts to keep in mind.

Obama has never supported privitization. He supports having people with more money paying more Social Security tax so it's better funded.

And while Clinton did sign the FMLA, it was about 2 weeks after he was sworn in. Congress had passed it twice already and Bush I had vetoed it.


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by politicsmatters on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:54:22 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 1)

He said everything was on the table.  I take him at his word.  I don't think he will go as far as privatization, though, since he drew back from it.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/a rchives/2007/05/obama_brushes_a.html

STEPHANOPOULOS: You've also said that with Social Security, everything should be on the table.
OBAMA: Yes.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Raising the retirement age?

OBAMA: Everything should be on the table.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Raising payroll taxes?

OBAMA: Everything should be on the table. I think we should
approach it the same way Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan did back in
1983. They came together. I don't want to lay out my preferences
beforehand, but what I know is that Social Security is solvable. It
is not as difficult a problem as we're going to have with Medicaid and
Medicare.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Partial privatization?

OBAMA: Privatization is not something that I would consider, and
the reason is this: Social Security, I think, is -- that's the floor.
That's the baseline. Social Security is that safety net that can't be
frayed, and we shouldn't put at risk.

Despite the boilerplate at the end, (which is fairly identical to the boilerplate of the Republican Social Security 'savers'), he left everything on the table 3 times.

I believe him.

If all he wanted to do was raise the FICA cap, which is the standard Democratic method of making up the delta in 2046 and beyond, he would have said so.  His retience causes me to totally not trust him on this issue.

Or for that matter, to anything having to do with old people.


"There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up" --Rex Stout
by LIsoundview on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:19:53 AM EST
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spelling faux pas (none / 0)

reticence

Sorry.


"There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up" --Rex Stout
by LIsoundview on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:21:20 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (2.00 / 2)

And there's another thing:

Obama:

I think we should
approach it the same way Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan did back in
1983. They came together.

And what did they do, Reagan and O'Neill?

They formed a bipartisan commission to 'save Social Security' from the deluge that would be the baby boomers' retirement.  AFAIR, the commission did 2 things:

1.  Raised FICA taxes on workers
2.  Instituted income tax on Social Security benefits (Lord, I remember how furious my father was at the time.  He had this little pamphlet on Social Security from back in FDR's administration that promised Social Security would never be taxed.  He felt betrayed by the Democrats, for sure.)

You can't do bipartisanship with Social Security without giving the Republicans something they want.  And what they want is never good for workers, and it's never good for the elderly.

Never.

And what was done with the extra money raised to save the Social Security for baby boomers?  

Was it put in a lockbox?  No.  

It was spent by and large by G.W. Bush, and before him, by Reagan.  Bill Clinton managed to get things more or less in shape, financially, but Dubya blew it big time.


"There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up" --Rex Stout
by LIsoundview on Thu May 29, 2008 at 09:49:13 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

And did the baby boomers get the results of the sacrifices they made, by paying more FICA than seniors who had retired previously?  And was there any fruit of the sacrifice their parents and grandparents made by paying taxes on their Social Security benefits to assure their children and grandchildren would have Social Security?

No.

The baby boomers just began to retire this year.  And the extra money had evaporated into the hellhole of foolishness that is the Iraq War.

Obama!  Get thee to a lockbox.  And fund Social Security.


"There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up" --Rex Stout
by LIsoundview on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:59:15 AM EST
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Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Thank you very much for this moving diary.
I understand your concern for health care.

Being a Frenchman, I am extremely sensitive to
the foreign policy aspect of this contest. Well, part of what is foreign for you is not for me!
I support Barack Obama for several reasons, but, fist and foremost, because I think that of the three contenders, only he has the will and the mental frameset required to restore US foreign policy. He can make the world a safer and more peaceful place.

There's much talking about leadership. I think that, the world being what it is now, what matters is partnership. The US can be a strong partner and can play a major role in promoting humanistic values. For 8 years they have done the reverse and it has been very damaging. I think that Barack Obama's approach will restore US leadership, not by imposing it, but because its parners will naturally acknowledge it.

I think Barack Obama's philosophy is not just words. He showed that he could handle a campaign, he could animate a team and bring people together to work in harmony. This is the kind of human qualities which are required at this point in time. This 'moment'...

As a Frenchman I'm very much attached to our health system (for all its defects...). I really understand your concerns about that. In fact, I don't know much about Clinton's and Obama's plans,
only what they said about it in speeches and debates. I don't know if those plans are very elaborated at this stage. Still, I must say that,
from what I gather, Clinton's plan is, in my opinion, better. That is, I think that in order to really work, social security should be compulsory.

Having said that, I must add also that, for such a plan to work, it has to be passed, and accepted by the population. You absolutely need a very strong consensus.

That means that the plan has to be negociated, and whatever your starting position, the output will be very substancially different from that.

I don't know if the American public is ready for Clinton's plan. I'm not sure Clinton has the diplomatic skills required to make it pass and to make the necessary concessions. Her present attitude makes me understand why she failed on this the 1st time she tried. I think you have to work on the mentality of the public also.

So, perhaps, Obama's less ambitious and more pragmatic approach will prove more effective.

 


by french imp on Thu May 29, 2008 at 08:09:03 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

I just rec'ed.


by french imp on Thu May 29, 2008 at 08:11:54 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Great diary. Thanks for sharing your personal story and why you support Hillary. Hillary has been a champion and advocate for universal health care, which is one of the reasons why I support her too. Rec'ed.


by grlpatriot on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:36:23 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Excellent diary - and you actually invoked a civil conversation. THANKS!!


by pan230oh on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:43:01 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

There are million reasons why I support Hillary.  There is not enough space for me to write it down here.  Thanks for the dairy.  


by JoeySky18 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:18:49 AM EST

Re: Why I support Hillary - A Personal Story (none / 0)

Thank you for your story. I've always been for universal health coverage for moral/ethical reasons.

This has been my number one issue when voting since my spouse was diagnosed with a serious chronic illness at age 39. When you have 26 years until you're Medicare eligible and know it will take several hundred-thousand dollars of medical care to get you to age 65, every decision you make in your life becomes about making sure you have health care coverage. It amazes me how people who haven't dealt with the health care industry have no idea how expensive and messed up the whole system is.


by LakersFan on Thu May 29, 2008 at 02:14:57 PM EST


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